Romantic Times Rewind: September 2002 Ads & Features


In this week’s podcast episode, we’re looking at the incredible ads and features for the September 2002 issue of RT Magazine.

Thank you to Mari for this issue!

You can also find all the RTRW content at our category page for Romantic Times Rewind. 

And, most importantly, if you want to listen and follow along with this entry, we have more detail in the audio, but you can click play and listen and read and absorb all the visual goodness:

Ok, let’s get started!

Cover!

Romantic Times Book Club - Sept 2002 Sci Fi Fantasy and the Female Fascination with books scattered over the front cover against a faded blue/yellow background. There's also an illustration of two elves? Maybe? to one side. It's very clip art cut and paste looking

It’s very Mod-Podge. Remember vision boards? Heck, remember magazines? (*sobbing nosies*)

Also, we took a side trip to Rejar. Over a thousand pages. Eleven hours of audiobook.  And three very different covers!

JOhn DeSalvo with long ahir posing on some pillows under a blanket with one arm up and flexed so the focus is his armpit.

Another cover with a man with heterochromia and a cat with heterochromia against a clock looking background

And this was the audiobook, all 11 hours and 23 minutes of it, available on The audiobook cover has a guy who seems wet? oiled? MOIST, really, with his hair slicked back, no shirt, leaning against a white stone wall.

The cover  was a Mod-Podge journey, is what we’re saying.

This ad was so emblematic of the time period:

Christina Dodd My Favorite Bride In affairs of the heart, a lady must never reveal everything .. art o Cynthia'Loeden NEW FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER Treat yourself to a fabulous book-anything by Christina Dodd." -JILL BARNETT And then there's just a picture of the book, which is 90% title and author with a tiny illustration of a castle.

Castles! Flowers! Castles and Flowers!

This part of the table of contents made me chortle:

the lower left corner of the ToC: COMING NEXT MONTH! DIVINE INSPIRATION An exploration of the mystical influence of writers who tap into the great unconscious and come up with great fiction TART NOIR. A DARKER SHADE OF CHICK LIT Find out why women hold all the cards in this brand of sexy and shocking stories featuring edgy outragous and badly behaved heroines

HOW DID TART NOIR NOT TAKE OFF AS A NAME. TART NOIR. I LOVE IT.

The start of Flavia's column: AM I THE ONLY ONE who finds she must be careful what she dishes of late? Those angry RWA folks sniping at each other over a few loose lips on their message boards, rabid readers ranting about authors who give romance a bad name, it's enough to make you want to zip it and throw away the key!

AM I THE ONLY ONE who finds she must be careful what she dishes of late? Those angry RWA folks sniping at each other over a few loose lips on their message boards, rabid readers ranting about authors who give romance a bad name, it’s enough to make you want to zip it and throw away the key!

I need to know what was going on in September 2002 that RWA message boards were causing Flavia to be cautious? It was only 22 years ago, so someone remembers, right?

PLENTY OF READERS HAVE BEEN BUSY buzzing about- and buying Julia Quinn's unmasking of Lady Whistledown in her latest, Julia Quinn ROMANCING MR. BRIDGERTON. The hot paperback is flying off shelves, clocking Quinn in at #1 on WALDENBOOKS. Bestseller list and #6 on USA Today.) Rest assured that we haven't seen the last of that loquacious lady She'll be starring in her own anthology, that will include stories told by Quinn's fellow Avon ladies such as Karen Hawkins. (Look for this to hit stores sometime shortly after New Year's). In addition, Quinn still has four more Bridgerton books up her puffed sleeves and Eloise and Francesca's stories will likely take place somewhere other than dear old Regency London. (Have you solved the mystery of Eloise's escape at the end of RMB? The possibilities tantalize!)

What a coincidence that this season of Bridgerton is based on this book, and we’re reading about its release in September 2002. (Also – don’t miss Shana’s post on why she’s re-watching part 1 of this season over and over).

Apparently reviewers “elsewhere” were being mean and folks were talking about it in the July 2002 issue, which I do not have – and for the record we launched in January 2005, so it wasn’t us!

REVIEWING THE REVIEWERS As always, I'm enjoying my RT. Love the changes and the new format! I very much enjoyed Patricia Waddell's Jul letter about rude reviews. I also join in Patricia's praise for RT reviewers. As an author of two mystery paperbacks, I've solved the mystery of dealing with rude reviews. Authors, take note! Just think of these two quotes, written more than a century apart: 1. "A bad review is even less important than whether it is raining in Patagonia." -Iris Murdoch, 1919-1999 2. "To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." -Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915 Puts things in perspective, right? Gail Farrelly via e-mail It must be remembered that book reviewing is an art, not a science-it comes down to personal opinion. Just as I can't stand modern art and think a picture should look like what's being painted, another person might consider me a Philistine. That said, no review should be aimed at the author. There are many times that I don't agree with an RT reviewer, but the synopsis will allow me to buy a book that appeals to me. As I get to know the reviewers and get a feel for what they like and don't like and equate it with my personal likes and dislikes, I know who to trust to recommend a book that I wouldn't normally read. I know it must be devastating to an author when their baby isn't given a warm welcome. But if the reviewer does take cheap shots, authors must learn to, as my mother used to say. consider the source. I agree with Patricia that. usually. RT reviewers are fair and professional in their reviews. And also, my pet peeves almost match your list! Lizabeth S. Tucker Port St. Lucie, FL

I’m now low-key hunting the July issue because I want to know about the letter to the editor!

Do you remember rebates?!

Avon Romance Rebate Avon brings you the best romance novels from the biggest authors all year round. Not only does Avon bring you terrific books, but also a fabulous rebate! Buy any of these titles and receive a $2.00 rebate off the next month's title! Get the details in the back of any of these great Avon romances: And then pictures of Her Highness, My Wife, by Victoria Alexander; Shadow Dance by Susan Andersen; The Woman Most Likely To by Jennifer Greene, and Untie my Heart by Judith Ivory

You’d get a $2 rebate buying one title one month for another title the next month? Wow, blast from the past!

We had a LOT of questions about this calendar:

The month of September has things like "harvest summer's last basil to make Pesto For recipes and LORE, visit Pesto.net!

September 17 really gave us a lot to talk about:

Harvest summer’s last basil to make Pesto Sauce. Freeze in in ice cube trays, and you’ll taste July in Januory! For recipes and lore, go to www.pesto.net.

BASIL has LORE! I had no idea. I learn so much!

Jayne Ann Krentz was releasing some futuristics from the 80s in 2002, including Sweet Starfire and Crystal Flame, to capture the fantasy and sci-fi trend. Sound familiar?

OTHER FUTURISTICS BY JAYNE ANN KRENTZ SHIELD'S LADY (written as Amanda Glass) 1989 (reissued in 1996) PSYNERGY, INC. SERIES (written as Jayne Castle) AMARYLLIS 1996 ZINNIA 1997 ORCHID 1998 "Bridal Jitters" in CHARMED* 1999 AFTER DARK* 2000 *Reissued in a 2-in-l volume titled HARMONY in July 2002

Did you read any of these?

We also talked about these covers, which I had to find in color because the black and white promised excellence and the promise was fulfilled.

Behold, The Shadow Prince by Jan Zimlich:

The Shadow Prince by Jan Zimlich - an illustration of a orange man with long flowing hair and a lack up shirt open to display chest har and NO NECK. HE HAS NO NECK.

That guy has no neck. But we figured out where his neck may have ended up:

Wanton Splendor has john deSalvo bending a woman backwards over her arm and nuzzling her neck which is VERY LONG and LOOKS BROKEN

Is she dead? Did she steal The Shadow Prince’s neck? Is she okay?!

We loved many things about this ad:

Judith B. Glad's provocative historical romance series is now available in print and pixel.

“Judith B. Glad’s provocative historical romance series is now available in print and pixel.”

PRINT and PIXEL! How did THAT not catch on, either?!

This recipe is absolutely unhinged. Cute, fun, but UNHINGED.

HET YOUR APPETITE for Cajun fare with a savory little dish served up in Toussaint, Louisiana, the setting of Stella Cameron's new Kensington hardcover, COLD DAY IN JULY. About 15 minutes prior to your reading time, get out your skillet and add a half-stick of butter, chopped scallions and a couple of garlic cloves (minced). Saute until garlic is browned. Add a package of frozen crawfish tails (if they smell a little fishy, soak them in milk first for about 10 minutes, then toss the milk). Next add a can of cream of mushroom soup, smother with 'Tony Chachare's Creole Seasoning (or Zataran's brand), a pinch of Cayenne pepper, black pepper, a dash of tabasco. Can add a little sherry or white wine. Let simmer. Pour mixture in five-inch pie shells or mini-pastry shells (recommended for reading) and bake at 350 degrees. Begin chapter one. By the time you discover that Toussaint medical examiner Reb O'Brien and her ex-lover Marc Girard, who just returned home to search for the truth about his missing sister, reunite to prove that a young female singer's death was not an accident, you can take your mini-pies out of the oven (about 15 to 20 minutes). Enjoy the flavor of Toussaint as passion heats up between Reb and Marc and the betrayals in the bayou town are about to explode. To read an excerpt visit www stellacameron.com.

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WHET YOUR APPETITE for Cajun fare with a savory little dish served up in Toussaint, Louisiana, the setting of Stella Cameron’s new Kensington hardcover,
COLD DAY IN JULY.

About 15 minutes prior to your reading time, get out your skillet and add a half-stick of butter, chopped scallions and a couple of garlic cloves (minced). Saute until garlic is browned. Add a package of frozen crawfish tails (if they smell a little fishy, soak them in milk first for about 10 minutes, then toss the milk). Next add a can of cream of mushroom soup, smother with Tony Chachare’s Creole Seasoning (or Zataran’s brand), a pinch of Cayenne pepper, black pepper, a dash of tabasco. Can add a little sherry or white wine.

Let simmer.

Pour mixture in five-inch pie shells or mini-pastry shells (recommended for reading) and bake at 350 degrees.

Begin chapter one. By the time you discover that Toussaint medical examiner Reb O’Brien and her ex-lover Marc Girard, who just returned home to search for the truth about his missing sister, reunite to prove that a young female singer’s death was not an accident, you can take your mini-pies out of the oven (about 15 to 20 minutes).

Enjoy the flavor of Toussaint as passion heats up between Reb and Marc and the betrayals in the bayou town are about to explode.
To read an excerpt visit www stellacameron.com.

The recipe timing based on reading chapter one is adorable. But I have a lot of questions about soaking crawfish tails in milk if they smell fishy? Is this a thing?

You know, I might not want to know. I definitely don’t want to know.

This article about Two Moms in a Minivan PI Agency:

EVER READ A PI NOvEL and thought, Gee, I wish I could do that...? Well, meet two sisters who've made that dream a reality! Valerie Agosta and Jan Cluff, co-owners of Two Moms in a Minivan PI Agency, are both breast cancer survivors; ironically, this life-threatening disease was the catalyst for making their lives more fulfilling. Ian and I both wanted more than to just survive cancer, Valerie says. We wanted to thrive, grow and discover new things that interested us because we've had a glimpse of how short life is and how much precious time is wasted. Like the more usual ex-cop Pls, they've handled all sorts of cases - We've investigated insurance fraud claims, checked out investors in a large local business, worked for collection agencies, chased unfaithful husbands, got the goods on rich Granny's new boyfriend and lots more. Unlike their more hard-boiled brethren, however, they've been paid in 'lots of hugs and thank yous and once in chocolate chip cookies (with M&Ms), as well as in cash. Sam Spade they're not - and that's a good thing!

EVER READ A PI NOVEL and thought, Gee, I wish I could do that…? Well, meet two sisters who’ve made that dream a reality! Valerie Agosta and Jan Cluff, co-owners of Two Moms in a Minivan PI Agency, are both breast cancer survivors; ironically, this life-threatening disease was the catalyst for making their lives more fulfilling. Ian and I both wanted more than to just survive cancer, Valerie says. We wanted to thrive, grow and discover new things that interested us because we’ve had a glimpse of how short life is and how much precious time is wasted….

Like the more usual ex-cop Pls, they’ve handled all sorts of cases – We’ve investigated insurance fraud claims, checked out investors in a large local business, worked for collection agencies, chased unfaithful husbands, got the goods on rich Granny’s new boyfriend and lots more. Unlike their more hard-boiled brethren, however, they’ve been paid in ‘lots of hugs and thank yous and once in chocolate chip cookies (with M&Ms), as well as in cash. Sam Spade they’re not – and that’s a good thing!

Valerie Agosta wrote a memoir called Spy Mom, and while the JBV seems high from the description, I love everything about it. Valerie died in 2009 from complications due to breast cancer. Cheers to you, ma’am.

We were very confused by the weird tone of this article:

It can be very sad when a talented person succumbs to the lure of a dangerous vice But author Christina Dodd has a no compunction about hiding her addiction. In the name of paying homage, the author cheerfully admits to cribbing the plots of some of the most romantic stories of all lime for her novels. What I do is honor those stories that deserve to be me. Is not the same story because it has the same TV Guide blurb: it is the author's voice that tells the tale. Look at the similarities between Sabrina' and 'Cinderella, My Fair Lady and Pygmalion, Clueless and Emma, Bridget Jones's Diary and Pride and Prejudice. Hmm. Maybe she isn't technically a klepto, but even Dodd must admit, the heroine of MY FAVORITE BRIDE, her new historical from Avon, definitely has some sticky fingers. When the artful Dodd decided to lift the plot from yet another beloved love story, The Sound of Music to be specific, she clearly let her pilfering tendencies transfer to her leading lady in her version, Maria's a former pickpocket in the latest in her Governess Brides series, Dodd alters just enough details to stay on the right side of the law, so the heroine is really named Samantha not Maria, and she falls in love with Colonel William Gregory, not Captain von Trapp. And the kids are six rebellious daughters not a mixed set of boys and girds. Sill, there's singing and playclothes and parties on hilltops, so really is al the same. But a pickpocketing governess? Well, really! What would Julie Andrews say?

It can be very sad when a talented person succumbs to the lure of a dangerous vice But author Christina Dodd has a no compunction about hiding her addiction. In the name of paying homage, the author cheerfully admits to cribbing the plots of some of the most romantic stories of all lime for her novels.

“What I do is honor those stories that deserve to be revisited, drawing on the rich traditions of the storytellers before me. Is not the same story because it has the same TV Guide blurb: it is the author’s voice that tells the tale. Look at the similarities between ‘Sabrina’ and ‘Cinderella, My Fair Lady and Pygmalion, Clueless and Emma, Bridget Jones’s Diary and Pride and Prejudice.”

Hmm. Maybe she isn’t technically a klepto, but even Dodd must admit, the heroine of MY FAVORITE BRIDE, her new historical from Avon, definitely has some sticky fingers.
When the artful Dodd decided to lift the plot from yet another beloved love story, The Sound of Music to be specific, she clearly let her pilfering tendencies transfer to her leading lady in her version, Maria’s a former pickpocket in the latest in her Governess Brides series, Dodd alters just enough details to stay on the right side of the law, so the heroine is really named Samantha not Maria, and she falls in love with Colonel William Gregory, not Captain von Trapp. And the kids are six rebellious daughters not a mixed set of boys and girds. Sill, there’s singing and play clothes and parties on hilltops, so really is al the same. But a pickpocketing governess? Well, really! What would Julie Andrews say?

Was this meant to be snide, or a joke? What on earth?!

This paragraph from an article on polyamory is potentially upsetting.

The full page article about polyamory had a really appalling paragraph:

Speaking personally- -and not on behalf of my characters!-I would definitely not like to be part of a polygamous household. On the other hand, I'm not quite sure why polygamy continues to be illegal. (It is practiced more widely than you might imagine, mostly by religious sects that have broken away from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, often referred to as Mormons.) What purpose does it achieve to prosecute a man who marries more than one woman for what he believes are sound religious reasons, when we wouldn't consider prosecuting a man who remains married to one woman. but has extramarital affairs with 2 10, or even 20 different women? (Or extra-marital affairs with 20 different men, for that matter.) Why is bigamy a criminal offense, but adultery is barely even a sin these days? If we are hoping to protect the children of polygamous marriages from being forced as minors into a polygamous relationship like my heroine had to endure, it seems to me that we ought to concentrate on exactly that, as opposed to worrying about consenting adults whose chosen lifestyle doesn't conform to our idea of what ought to be the nor. What do you think? Oh, and for those of you who are wondering.. .Anna definitely follows the romantic tradition and falls in love with her soulmate-_-who wants nobody for his wife except her.

Speaking personally- -and not on behalf of my characters!-I would definitely not like to be part of a polygamous household. On the other hand, I’m not quite sure why polygamy continues to be illegal. (It is practiced more widely than you might imagine, mostly by religious sects that have broken away from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, often referred to as Mormons.) What purpose does it achieve to prosecute a man who marries more than one woman for what he believes are sound religious reasons, when we wouldn’t consider prosecuting a man who remains married to one woman. but has extramarital affairs with 2 10, or even 20 different women? (Or extra-marital affairs with 20 different men, for that matter.) Why is bigamy a criminal offense, but adultery is barely even a sin these days?

If we are hoping to protect the children of polygamous marriages from being forced as minors into a polygamous relationship like my heroine had to endure, it seems to me that we ought to concentrate on exactly that, as opposed to worrying about consenting adults whose chosen lifestyle doesn’t conform to our idea of what ought to be the nor.
What do you think?

Oh, and for those of you who are wondering.. .Anna definitely follows the romantic tradition and falls in love with her soulmate–who wants nobody for his wife except her.

What in the crispy fried fuck?!

This ad for Avid Press had a lot of expectations of us!

This avid press ad is very instructive: Curl up with a cup of tea, an apple, your cat and a really good book. Your next adventure is waiting.

Is an apple a good reading snack? Does your cat have to agree or are you tossing the cat in the carrier and heading out? This is quite a to do list!

The cover article was really a big nothingburger, mostly someone’s reading history and a list of books, and it was a big bummer.

We did like this cover, because that cat is PISSED OFF and is NOT COMING WITH YOU TO READ BOOKS AND EAT APPLES.

Anne McCafrey's The Rowan, which features a white haired woman with a gown and green tights, and a very big, very angry white cat next to her

Look how mad that cat is!

The article was not at all an exploration of female fascination, and it was really confusing.

Then there was the book matching page where they define different kinds of fantasy and make recommendations:

EPIC, HEROIC OR HIGH FANTASY: Focuses on sweeping plots where the fate of whole worlds or nations rests on the characters and personal happiness is a side issue. Often a coming of-age quest is employed to rescue the world. High fantasy might use more lyrical language and employ more royal or fantastical characters as part of its scenario. WHO SHOULD TRY THESE? Readers who enjoy the personal journeys of women's fiction novels (especially those laden with obstacles) like Jude Deveraux's Montgomery heroines or the novels of Judith MeNaught and Dorothy Garlock. RECOMMENDED TITLES: Jennifer Roberson's Sword-Dancer; Laura Resnick's In Legend Born; Patricia Bray's Devin's Luck: Elizabeth Havdon's Rhapsody series and sequel Requiem for the Sun Mercedes Lackey's Arrows of the Queen and her entire Valdemar fantasy world; Wayfarer's Redemption by Sara Douglass; Dragon Scrolls by Melanie Rawn; J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings.

So people who like Judith McNaught should try epic, heroic, or high fantasy, like JRR Tolkien? To quote Amanda, they’re comparing a setting to specific characters with family drama?

We couldn’t figure out who the audience was, or who this was for, and it really didn’t match our expectations based on the cover. (If you’d like to read the article, if you join the Patreon, you’ll get access to the entire issue as a PDF.)

This was one of the worst illustrated covers we have ever seen.

It's a love thang by reon laudon, with an illustration of a very stretched out black woman with extremely long fingers and ankles and a giant oval head with one finger resting on her chin. She's very spaghetti looking. And there's a very square guy reading a newspaper wearing green pants and a striped shirt and black jacket. But she would be ten times taller than he is if she stood up

I know we complain about illustrated covers, but honestly, we have it so much better right now, even when they don’t have faces.

As usual, there’s a lot of promotion of the convention, including a mention of what you get if you register:

FOR STARTERS, AT REGISTRATION YOU will receive a sturdy canvas bag (compliments of Deborah Smith) to be stuffed to the brim with over $200 worth of books and "goodies" that you'll find displayed along Promotion Lane, which will remain open throughout the five-day event.

Indeed you did get a bag of books. A lot of books.

Then there’s a cover model dinner and the talking of flirting and dancing and taking photos with your favorite cover model made my stomach unhappy a little:

ROSES, CANDLELIGHT AND DANCING with handsome men will transform Wednesday evening into a night of fantasy. Hosted br RT BOOKclub and debut mystery author Twist Phelan. the Cover Model Reunion Dinner will deliver an Evening of Elegance. Twist, who promises to make sure you have lots to write about. is also providing attendees with a memory book for auto-graphs, and photographs and remembrances of the evening. Twist has invited those gorgeous cover models from years past to join this year's contestants to wine, dine and dance with you for the evening. So remember to tuck a smashing evening dress into your suitcase. A photographer will be avail-able to snap pour picture with vour favorite cover model for the cover insert of vour memory book. This Evening of Elegance is well worth the extra ticket price!

“…gorgeous cover models from years past to join this year’s contestants to wine, dine and dance with you for the evening.”

There’s a whole page of all the parties at RT, TWELVE of them, in fact – and Amanda is going to this party:

PAM BINDER'S PAJAMA PARTY If you could time travel back to last year's convention, one of the highlights would undoubtedly be Pam Binder's Sunday night Pajama Party Pam had so much fun that she's throwing her "Time is an Illusion, Love is the Only Reality" dancing and karaoke bash again this year. This will be the night to let your hair down, dance and sing into the wee hours with old and new RT friends. Be sure to bring your Memory Book and arrive early The first 150 people to walk through the door will receive one of Pam's "hot" 2002 sleepshirts! Prizes will go to the person who looks the best in their sleepshirt!

If you could time travel back to last year’s convention, one of the highlights would undoubtedly be Pam Binder’s Sunday night Pajama Party Pam had so much fun that she’s throwing her “Time is an Illusion, Love is the Only Reality” dancing and karaoke bash again this year. This will be the night to let your hair down, dance and sing into the wee hours with old and new RT friends. Be sure to bring your Memory Book and arrive early The first 150 people to walk through the door will receive one of Pam’s “hot” 2002 sleepshirts! Prizes will go to the person who looks the best in their sleepshirt!

The parties at RT were pretty fun, but pajama party? Amanda’s right – the most casual.

So! Those were our favorites from the Ads and Features from RT’s September 2002 issue!

Next up: SHEIK, aka the December 1997 issue! Just wait until you see this cover.

And remember, if you join the Patreon, you’ll get access to the entire issue as a PDF.

What do you think? Did you read the futuristic Jayne Ann Krentz books? Did you find The Shadow Prince’s neck? Do you remember any of these books?



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